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Yet another Samplitude to ProTools export question!

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First of all: Hello (After a long time!)

I'm sorry if this question was answered before. I've performed a search but no luck.

I use Samplitude Pro X.

Recently we made a recording of classical music and I was in charge to select the whole material and make the edition.

For the audio mastering we would like to give the full material to a recording studio, and of course, they work with ProTools 9 & 10.

I've made an AAF/OMF export of my entire session with Samplitude but ProTools could't open the file. I've tried all the combinations in the export settings but no luck.

Which options do I have? AATranslator?

Greetings!

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Are you wanting to give them a stereo file or individual tracks? Either way remember PT only does 24 bit files, no 32 bit.

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Are you wanting to give them a stereo file or individual tracks? Either way remember PT only does 24 bit files, no 32 bit.

Sorry, not true. PT supports 32bit float since version 10, so you can export 32bit files from Samp.

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I've made an AAF/OMF export of my entire session with Samplitude but ProTools could't open the file. I've tried all the combinations in the export settings but no luck.

Which options do I have? AATranslator?

Unfortunately AAF is an even bigger marketing con than OMF and it is even more poorly implemented by most daws. This is not just the fault of these daws but lets save that for another time.

AATranslator is your best bet but if this is just a one-off then you can always take advantage of our conversion offer.

Send us your VIP or a Samplitude EDL (or both) and we will convert it for you and if you are happy with the results then you can just make a donation via our web site.

You decide the amount and if eventually you end up spending the equivalent of a licence we will just give you a licence.

AATranslator

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I tank you all for the answers.

Are you wanting to give them a stereo file or individual tracks? Either way remember PT only does 24 bit files, no 32 bit.

Sorry, not true. PT supports 32bit float since version 10, so you can export 32bit files from Samp.

Since the original material is 24bit, I've no need to convert it into another bitrate. I live it exactly as it is.

The recording is a 7 mono channels, 44.1KHz, 24bit.

I've made an AAF/OMF export of my entire session with Samplitude but ProTools could't open the file. I've tried all the combinations in the export settings but no luck.

Which options do I have? AATranslator?

Unfortunately AAF is an even bigger marketing con than OMF and it is even more poorly implemented by most daws. This is not just the fault of these daws but lets save that for another time.

AATranslator is your best bet but if this is just a one-off then you can always take advantage of our conversion offer.

Send us your VIP or a Samplitude EDL (or both) and we will convert it for you and if you are happy with the results then you can just make a donation via our web site.

You decide the amount and if eventually you end up spending the equivalent of a licence we will just give you a licence.

AATranslator

That would be great! But I've seen that AATranslator exports only pt5 files (ProTools 5). Well, I'm sure that ProTools 10 can open old PT files, right?

If I send you my VIP file and you convert it to pt5, the audio files root remain unchanged, right? That means the recording studio should get the converted file with the audio folders without alterations, right?

Anyway I've seen in other forums a few successes exporting AAF with Sam and importing it with PT 10... not my case unfortunately.

Thanks!

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I've seen in other forums a few successes exporting AAF with Sam and importing it with PT 10... not my case unfortunately.

Thanks!

It worked for me with Pro Tools 10.0 and the first version of Samplitude Pro-X. I haven't tried it with later versions.

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I've seen in other forums a few successes exporting AAF with Sam and importing it with PT 10... not my case unfortunately.

Thanks!

It worked for me with Pro Tools 10.0 and the first version of Samplitude Pro-X. I haven't tried it with later versions.

That's god! May be you can help me.

Is I said above, my session is a 7 channels (mono) 44.1Khz, 24Bits. I put all the audio material in the beginning of the session and right after the editing (Cuts, crossfades, etc...). For the AAF export I've disabled all plug-ins and automation to avoid any kind of incompatibility.

I think I've tried all the setting possibilities... non of them worked.

Do you have any extra advice for this settings?

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I've made my session with Sam Pro X (64bit) on Windows 7 Ultimate and I would like this session to be imported into ProTools 10 (Mac OS).

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That would be great! But I've seen that AATranslator exports only pt5 files (ProTools 5). Well, I'm sure that ProTools 10 can open old PT files, right?

If I send you my VIP file and you convert it to pt5, the audio files root remain unchanged, right? That means the recording studio should get the converted file with the audio folders without alterations, right?

Anyway I've seen in other forums a few successes exporting AAF with Sam and importing it with PT 10... not my case unfortunately.

Thanks!

Yes it will output a PT5 file which contains far more detail than any AAF or OMF and can be read by later versions of PT

An AAF or OMF is great if

1. You really only want the very basics converted - and I mean the basics

No markers, no fade types, no bpm, no gain , pan or mute automation/envelopes, etc, etc

2. You think it might have a chance of being read by another daw

3. you like to live life on the edge

You can send me your VIP and/or your EDL

Your choice

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That would be great! But I've seen that AATranslator exports only pt5 files (ProTools 5). Well, I'm sure that ProTools 10 can open old PT files, right?

If I send you my VIP file and you convert it to pt5, the audio files root remain unchanged, right? That means the recording studio should get the converted file with the audio folders without alterations, right?

Anyway I've seen in other forums a few successes exporting AAF with Sam and importing it with PT 10... not my case unfortunately.

Thanks!

Yes it will output a PT5 file which contains far more detail than any AAF or OMF and can be read by later versions of PT

An AAF or OMF is great if

1. You really only want the very basics converted - and I mean the basics

No markers, no fade types, no bpm, no gain , pan or mute automation/envelopes, etc, etc

2. You think it might have a chance of being read by another daw

3. you like to live life on the edge

You can send me your VIP and/or your EDL

Your choice

Ok, Ok, Ok!!!! ;)

Before I send my vip file I wanted to eliminate other possibilities.

Thanks!

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Hi!

Before I say thanks again to the people of AATranslator for the free conversion, I just wanted to add some more information about this subject and the problem of converting project files between different DAWs.

I've been reading and searching for an explanation, because many people (like Bob Olhsson) had success importing OMF/AAF files. As I said, that was not my case.

For this reason I've decided to experiment myself a little bit, downloading demos and talking to friends in order to use different DAWs.

I've tried so many programs that I almost forgot: :blink:

Sony Sound Forge 10

Pro Tools 8, 9 & 10 (Mac)

Presonus Studio One 2

Adobe Audition CS5 & CS6

Nuendo 4

Cakewalk Sonar X1

And of course, Samplitude Pro X, but that doesn't count since it's my main source.

What I did: I exported an OMF file (not embedded) of my project (7 mono channels, 44.1Khz, 24Bit) with Samplitude Pro X and imported it with all of the applications I've mentioned above. The results were rather disappointing... :unsure:

First of all, I couldn't rely on Sound Forge 10 or Presonus Studio One 2, since they do not support OMF files... perfect! :angry:

Adobe Audition CS5 & CS6, as well as Sonar X1, crashed trying to import the OMF file generated by Samplitude. :blink:

All the Pro Tools versions I was able to try (8, 9 & 10) reported an error trying to open the same OMF file (DigiTranslator included).

At this point I was thinking that, may be, the OMF file generated by Samplitude was not right!

So, here is the thing... The only application able to import that OMF file was Nuendo 4. Victory!! B)

As Runaway already reported, just the basics were imported (Not even the markers!), but all the clips, cuts and crossfades were there. Not a big deal for me, since that is exactly what I wanted, but Nuendo showed a few digital clicks that were not present in the original Samplitude project.

That all being said, I think AATranslator was the best solution. A "must have" for a studio working with different DAWs.

Thanks again Runaway for the conversion!

Greetings!

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All the Pro Tools versions I was able to try (8, 9 & 10) reported an error trying to open the same OMF file (DigiTranslator included).

Could you post the import log of ProTools?

Georg

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All the Pro Tools versions I was able to try (8, 9 & 10) reported an error trying to open the same OMF file (DigiTranslator included).

Could you post the import log of ProTools?

Georg

Kann man machen. Oh... hier ist das Englisch Forum, Verzeihung! ;)

I will as soon as I get my hands on Pro Tools again. I don't have Pro Tools, that's why I have to do all this conversions.

Thanks!

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Thanks - I will report it in the Beta forum.

I am in a similar situation. I do not have Protools or Avid and would like to export an aaf or omf to it. Until now without success. The other way round (from Avid or PT to Sequoia) works quite good, though.

Georg

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My experience was with the first released version of Pro-X so this is probably a bug in the current one. I also avoid OMF if at all possible. It has always been buggy which was why Avid developed the other format as a more solid method of transfer.

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I also avoid OMF if at all possible. It has always been buggy which was why Avid developed the other format as a more solid method of transfer.

Yep - OMF2 was written to fix OMF1 and I guess AAF was supposed to do the same for OMF2.

A few minutes with Google and you can see which daws have success (or not) reading AAFs from other daws

I guess there will be an AAF2 soon enough :D

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A few minutes with Google and you can see which daws have success (or not) reading AAFs from other daws

I guess there will be an AAF2 soon enough :D

Yeap! Nuendo 4 handled much better OMF than AAF files, at least the ones exported by Samplitude.

...but Nuendo showed a few digital clicks that were not present in the original Samplitude project.

Even importing the audio files alone, Nuendo shows clicks and crackles. I think it can not handle properly the 24bit mono wave audio file.

Samplitude doesn't show any digital clicks or crackles.

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Dear Castellanos,

it's better to discuss your problem with our support. They can provide you a FTP upload for test projects too.

They have PT10 and Nuendo 4/5 available for tests as well.

The 2 main issues you seem to have are:

- import of an OMF/AAF into PT (we usually prefer AAF and fixed quite some issues for the import. To track import problems in PT is not as easy to find and to fix by our devs.)

- audio import (Mono 24bit) into Nuendo4 gives crackles

I created a support ticket under your forum email address to them. If you don't get an automated message, please contact them directly.

kind regards, André

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Dear Castellanos,

it's better to discuss your problem with our support. They can provide you a FTP upload for test projects too.

They have PT10 and Nuendo 4/5 available for tests as well.

The 2 main issues you seem to have are:

- import of an OMF/AAF into PT (we usually prefer AAF and fixed quite some issues for the import. To track import problems in PT is not as easy to find and to fix by our devs.)

- audio import (Mono 24bit) into Nuendo4 gives crackles

I created a support ticket under your forum email address to them. If you don't get an automated message, please contact them directly.

kind regards, André

Thanks a lot!

No automated message till now. I'll check it out!

EDIT: Never mind. It came as spam.

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Hi!

I just wanted to inform this board and any other who ever run into this problem that I've solved this AAF/OMF export "issue".

The only way it worked for me was under this settings:

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I was able to export my whole Samplitude session into ProTools without problems.

Just to be clear, ONLY the basics are being exported: Crossfades and markers (without names) are there. Not a big deal for me since it's the only thing I needed.

If you need a better export of your Sam sessions, I recommend to use "AATranslator"

I would like to thank Runaway for the time and the free conversion and especially the people of MAGIX Pro Support who guided me to solve this issue.

Greetings!

SOLVED!!

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That is good news.

Some other good news is that the next release of AATranslator in a week or so will have a PTF export function which will allow a conversion to ProTools which will convert heaps more than any AAF or OMF ever could eg track names, fades, bpm, markers, track automation (volume, pan & mute) and even some fade types.

But if you only need the basics at least you have worked out how it's done - well done and thanks for sharing.

Thanks for the feedback Castellanos.

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